tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1648230750208763565.post5210972905147294690..comments2023-11-03T11:00:07.566+00:00Comments on Displacement: Poetry discoveries; Mark Doty and AtlantisFiona Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10052038869211775919noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1648230750208763565.post-68230605307661351752012-03-24T10:39:11.983+00:002012-03-24T10:39:11.983+00:00Thanks Stephen. The strange thing is, I can see e...Thanks Stephen. The strange thing is, I can see exactly what O'Brien means! Perhaps it's a matter of taste... maybe even with political undertones? Would love to see the whole review, if you've got it (can't read it online, as it's subscribers only). Doty's work is always self-conscious, isn't it. Does it make sense to say, he's self-consciously self-conscious? In some of his work, I find this problematic. But the poems in 'Atlantis' seem to transcend all that.Fiona Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10052038869211775919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1648230750208763565.post-52690023701804462032012-03-21T11:05:47.216+00:002012-03-21T11:05:47.216+00:00An enjoyable piece – and it's reassuring that ...An enjoyable piece – and it's reassuring that this posting and Longenbach's review cover many of the same points as my recently completed M Phil on Doty. Too many people who should know better are dismissive of Doty's work viz Sean O'Brien's spectacular exercise in point-missing in a TLS review of Atlantis (29/11/96) headed 'Nothing needs to be this lavish'. He complains that 'the most striking feature of Atlantis is its self-conscious prolixity’ and regrets that poems ‘which aim to be meditative too often end up as self-indulgent blather’. Longenbach, by the way, is the author of an interesting little book in Graywolf's 'Art of' series called 'The Art of the Poetic Line'.Stephen Elveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05142895495222407874noreply@blogger.com